[Hulksmash]

http://finance.yahoo...5.html?x=0&.v=1

[M-3]

No mention of what (if any) stores have signed on to be a part of it. Will the headline six months from now read: Shopping Center Sits Half-Built & Empty Like Aramingo Crossings"? Although I heard a rumor that Aramingo Crossings might be getting a super Wal-Mart (the kind with a grocery store, hair salon, tire center, eye doctor, etc). If that's the case it won't be good for any shops anywhere near here.

[Mikey]

M-3, on 27 July 2010 - 11:18 AM, said:

No mention of what (if any) stores have signed on to be a part of it.

None as of the July article reported in this thread: http://www.pridesbur...dpost__p__48032

I guess the developer feels if he builds it, they will come?

[Mikey]

Mikey, on 27 July 2010 - 11:51 AM, said:

I guess the developer feels if he builds it, they will come?

http://www.bizjourna...es_forward.html

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No tenants have been lined up but discussions are ongoing with several retailers, Hankin said, and he is hopeful that while the clean up and demolition is underway, some leases will be signed, prompting construction to begin on the first phase during the first quarter of next year. The first phase would total 100,000 square feet.

[Brian Yoak]

Mikey, on 29 July 2010 - 11:25 AM, said:

http://www.bizjourna...es_forward.html

Where did they get this information from:
"When PREIT pulled out, the Frankford Arsenal project's demise was a blow to the old, industrial neighborhood where redevelopment has been slow but desperately sought by the community"

Most people I know don't want a shopping center anywhere near the community.



Read more: Frankford Arsenal redevelopment inches forward - Philadelphia Business Journal

[Mikey]

Brian Yoak, on 29 July 2010 - 11:52 AM, said:

Where did they get this information from:
"When PREIT pulled out, the Frankford Arsenal project's demise was a blow to the old, industrial neighborhood where redevelopment has been slow but desperately sought by the community"

Most people I know don't want a shopping center anywhere near the community.

http://philadelphia..../04/story6.html

I would say that it is the editorial opinion of the Philadelphia Business Journal since the same wording was used in the article dated 9/1/2000 -

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The Frankford Arsenal project's demise comes as somewhat of a blow to the old, industrial Philadelphia neighborhood where redevelopment has been slow but desperately sought by the community.

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"I think the whole arsenal is ripe for development," said Gerry Kosinski, Democratic leader of the 45th ward and a member of the Bridesburg Business Association.

"I think there might be some community concerns about making sure the community isn't left out," he continued, adding that Bridesburg residents want to have more say in future development of the site.

Neighbors of the arsenal were "cautious" about the power center project "because they didn't know specifically what was going on there," Kosinski said.

Well, I don't see where surrounding communities, Bridesburg, Whitehall and Wissinoming, got any say in anything currently happening.

[Janewe]

According to the Northeaast Times, the owner of the Arsenal has been approved for and has started building his shopping center. I thought we fought this 10 years ago and we were not going to let it happen.

[Janewe]

Why shouldn't we have a say in where our community is going? I pay a good deal in property and wage taxes every year. We need to picket the SOB.

Mikey, on 29 July 2010 - 01:18 PM, said:

http://philadelphia..../04/story6.html

I would say that it is the editorial opinion of the Philadelphia Business Journal since the same wording was used in the article dated 9/1/2000 -



Well, I don't see where surrounding communities, Bridesburg, Whitehall and Wissinoming, got any say in anything currently happening.

[Mikey]

Janewe, on 05 August 2010 - 01:56 PM, said:

According to the Northeaast Times, the owner of the Arsenal has been approved for and has started building his shopping center. I thought we fought this 10 years ago and we were not going to let it happen.

I remember folks being against it but I don't remember any zoning ruling or court ruling that stopped the prior project based on community input. All I can find on the web are stories that the prior developer decided to concentrate their resources elsewhere.

Janewe, on 05 August 2010 - 02:01 PM, said:

Why shouldn't we have a say in where our community is going? I pay a good deal in property and wage taxes every year. We need to picket the SOB.

We should have a say but we didn't get a say. We were bypassed somehow. I didn't see any prior notices anywhere about this development. Well, this should come as no surprise. There were community organizations opposed to Sugar House casino, (see the web site http://www.phillyalliance.org/ as an example), but Sugar House is nearly finished and ready for opening.

The same thing will happen with the Arsenal project.

It appears our local political reps were there for a photo session at groundbreaking and they failed to tell us the details ahead of time.

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Among those attending a July 26 news conference on the retail project were Mayor Michael Nutter, U.S. Rep. Allyson Schwartz (D-13th dist.), City Councilwoman Joan Krajewski (D-6th dist.) and state Rep. Tony Payton (D-179th dist.). In keeping with the site's historical legacy, a band played patriotic music.

That Northeast times article is now online at http://www.philly.co...tail_world.html

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The theme for the new retail center will be Where History Goes to Shop.

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Hankin expects to draw customers from Wissinoming, Frankford, Bridesburg and elsewhere, since there will be direct access to the center via a new Bridge Street exit that is included in PennDOT's I-95 reconstruction and improvement project. Also, Delaware Avenue is expected to be extended.

Hm, the last I heard from DRCC reps who were discussing the river trail, Delaware Avenue is scheduled to be extended to Orthodox street in the first phase, then to Buckius and supposedly this money was appropriated and in a budget ready to be spent after they are done with the central Delaware trail from Center City to Pulaski Park. They would then like a bridge built over the old mouth of the Frankford Creek and Delaware Avenue taken past the arsenal grounds but this seems just to be a wish list and isn't a part of any design plan I've seen on the web.

[Mikey]

Mikey, on 05 August 2010 - 03:19 PM, said:

That Northeast times article is now online at http://www.philly.co...tail_world.html

Tom Waring's article is also published in The Star, August 5th edition, now being delivered to area homes. It is the front page story.

[Mikey]

http://www.arsenalshoppingcenter.org/

The project now has its own web site.

Site includes maps and artist renderings of the project.

It looks like a giant central parking lot in the middle with anchor stores around the north, east and south sides. Entrance is from Tacony Street. The map also shows a future extension of Delaware Ave along the river side of the Arsenal that then turns along the north side to reach Tacony Street. View the map here: http://www.arsenalsh...er.org/site.htm

[AnimaniacZero]

Hmmm, well if this is the case, they better do something with that creek so the whole area doesn't stink to the high heavens when it opens.

It is good to know that they're not knocking everything down in the Arsenal. I just hope that this area isn't subjected to vandalization and robbery by goofs.

[Mikey]

http://spiritnewspap...spapers&he=.com

The Spirit Community Newspapers has an article on the shopping center at the arsenal and this paragraph jumped out at me:

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The creation of the 500,000-square-foot shopping center, endorsed by the community and local business and civic associations, is expected to create at least 250 construction jobs during its development and, upon completion, more than 1,000 retail jobs.

I know we have a few members here who are involved with Bridesburg Civic Association. So, when was a meeting held by the Civic to discuss this shopping center development and when did they and Bridesburg Business Association and Bridesburg Development Corp. endorse this on our behalf? Did our local groups endorse this and not tell us or were only groups in Wissinoming, Whitehall and Frankford approached?

[Crew]

Janewe, on 05 August 2010 - 01:56 PM, said:

According to the Northeaast Times, the owner of the Arsenal has been approved for and has started building his shopping center. I thought we fought this 10 years ago and we were not going to let it happen.

I was one of the people who got wind of this 10 years ago and was heavily involved in getting this stopped then...went to meetings, set up petitions everywhere...Didn't hear ONE word of it this time!!